Monday, February 13, 2006

The Screen of Belief

You believe in God, and another does not believe in God, so your beliefs separate you from each other. Belief throughout the world is organized as Hinduism, Buddhism, or Christianity, and so it divides man from man. We are confused, and we think that through belief we shall clear the confusion; that is, belief is superimposed on the confusion, and we hope that confusion will thereby be cleared away. But belief is merely an escape from the fact of confusion; it does not help us to face and to understand the fact but to run away from the confusion in which we are. To understand the confusion, belief is not necessary, and belief only acts as a screen between ourselves and our problems. So, religion, which is organized belief, becomes a means of escape from what is, from the fact of confusion. The man who believes in God, the man who believes in the hereafter, or who has any other form of belief, is escaping from the fact of what he is. Do you not know those who believe in God, who do puja, who repeat certain chants and words, and who in their daily life are dominating, cruel, ambitious, cheating, dishonest? Shall they find God? Are they really seeking God? Is God to be found through repetition of words, through belief? But such people believe in God, they worship God, they go to the temple every day, they do everything to avoid the fact of what they areā€”and such people you consider respectable because they are yourself.

J. Krishnamurti

7 Comments:

Blogger CE said...

J. K.
Observe without judgement and condemnation. Don't contradict yourself. People are not divided.
People are not confused. They are not dominating, cruel, ambitious, etc...

2:47 pm  
Blogger Wendy C. said...

Why do you think that?

12:00 pm  
Blogger CE said...

Sorry,
This is Krishnamurti's favorite statement, I think. He says this again and again. But at the same time he makes a lot of judgement about society and individuals.
In effect, he says don't judge but he keeps making judgement in his talks and books. This is one I don't understand about his teachings. Is he deliberately confusing or manipulating people. I have the idea that most people who listen to him agree without really understanding what he was saying. They just want to go along I think.
One must say: don't make any judgement. And stop at that.

12:29 pm  
Blogger Wendy C. said...

I dont think you inderstood my question. I was hoping to understand why do you think that people are not dominating, cruel or ambitious?

1:58 pm  
Blogger CE said...

Wendy,
They are! I was just trying to contradict Krishnamurti.
But not all people are. But to observe without judgement and condemnation, we should forget about this. It doesn't really matter if people are. They won't go very far with these things.

1:04 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi

You have both missed the point.
You can observe an act of selfisshness, but by naming it it does not mean you judge it, judging it means you either agree or disagree with it, join it or try to change it. By merely pointing out it does not mean you want to modify it in any way. See that and you will understand K.

6:10 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi

You have both missed the point.
You can observe an act of selfisshness, but by naming it it does not mean you judge it, judging it means you either agree or disagree with it, join it or try to change it. By merely pointing out it does not mean you want to modify it in any way. See that and you will understand K.

6:10 pm  

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